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Welcome back everybody to another deep dive. This time we're digging into a topic that's uh well it's come up a lot in your request and that's polygamy in the Latter-day Saint movement.

Yeah, fascinating subject for sure.

But we're not just looking at the beginnings. You guys want to know how it evolved after Joseph Smith?

Right. From Brigham Young onwards.

Exactly. So we've gathered a really interesting mix of materials here. Historical accounts, personal journals, legal documents, theological discussions. You name it all. Focusing on this later period

should be quite a journey.

Absolutely. Okay. So, just to set the stage, we know Joseph Smith introduced the idea of plural marriage. But it seems like under Brigham Young, it really became a defining characteristic of the movement.

Yeah, that's right.

Why was that?

Well, after the Saints settled in Utah, Brigham Y. Young, he made the practice public in 1852.

Okay.

And it wasn't just about personal relationships anymore. It really became deeply intertwined with Mormon theology and community identity. The concept of celestial marriage emerged which was the belief that practicing plural marriage in this life was essential for reaching the highest level of exaltation in the afterlife.

So it wasn't just about earthly unions. It was about eternal progression.

Exactly. It added a whole new layer to the motivation behind it.

It makes sense.

Yeah.

And Brigham Young used this doctrine to really shape Mormon society.

Oh, absolutely. Plural marriage became a sign of faithfulness, commitment, even social standing in a way within the community.

Why? But this public embrace of polygamy also set the stage for a major clash. The US government, they were not exactly thrilled about this development.

Right. So what kind of push back did Brigham Young face?

Oh, there was growing pressure to abandon the practice. But Brigham Y. Young instead of backing down, he doubled down.

Really?

He framed polygamy as a religious freedom issue, arguing that the government had no right to interfere with their beliefs or practices.

He was basically drawing a line in the sand.

Exactly. Saying this is our faith and were not compromising.

Wow. And did that work?

Well, the defiance continued under John Taylor, who succeeded Brigham Young as church president.

Okay.

But he faced even more intense legal pressure this time culminating in the passage of the Edmonds Act in 1882.

Oh, wow.

And then even harsher, the Edmonds Tucker Act in 1887.

What a zoo.

While these laws aimed to criminalize polygamy, disenfranchise women, and even seize church property.

Those are some serious consequences. How did John Taylor react to all of this.

He was unwavering. He saw these laws as a direct attack on their religious freedom and the sanctity of their covenants.

There's a powerful quote attributed to him where he declares that if the saints didn't enter into plural marriage, then the kingdom of God could not go one step further.

He was really standing his ground.

He was he firmly believed that they were living a higher law, even if it meant defying the government.

It sounds like he was prepared to face any consequence, no matter how severe.

Yeah, he was. But the standoff obviously couldn't last forever. That's true. So what happened?

Well, the pressure on the church was immense. They were facing the very survival of the institution at this point. So Wilford Woodruff, who succeeded John Taylor, issued the manifesto in 1890.

Okay. And this is what officially put an end to the practice.

That's right. It officially declared an end to the practice of plural marriage.

So that's the turning point.

It is. But our sources, they mention a second manifesto as well.

Oh, really? So it wasn't that simple?

No, it turned out to be more complicated than a single declaration. You see, while Woodruff's manifesto signaled a shift in policy, some church leaders, even within the quorum of the 12, continued to practice and even authorize new plural marriages.

Oh, wow. So, there was disconnect between the official stance and what was happening on the ground.

Exactly. And this led to continued tensions with the government and internal divisions within the church.

Sounds messy.

It was. It wasn't until 1904 under Joseph F. Smith that the so-called second manifesto was issued further clarifying and reinforcing the ban on polygamy.

Okay.

This time it came with a clear threat of excommunication for anyone who continued the practice.

So it sounds like it was a long and difficult process to fully disentangle the church from polygamy.

Yes, it was.

So what happened to those who just couldn't accept this change? The ones who truly believed it was a divine commandment.

Well, that's where things get even more interesting. We start to see the emergence of splinter groups. Those who broke away from the main church because they felt the original Revelation on polygamy was from God and it couldn't be rescinded by any earthly authority.

Polygamy went underground.

Yeah. Continuing in these smaller groups.

It's amazing how such a deeply held belief can persist even when facing so much opposition.

It really speaks to the intensity of their convictions.

Absolutely. They believe they were upholding a sacred principle.

Even if it meant being ostracized and facing legal trouble.

They saw themselves as the true keepers of the original faith.

That's right.

It's a powerful example of how belief and shape choices and even create entirely new communities.

It is.

So, how did the main church respond to these splinter groups and where does that leave the doctrine of polygamy within the LDS church today?

That's a great question and it leads us right into the next chapter of our deep dive where we'll explore the evolving legacy of polygamy and its impact on the church both internally and in its relationship with the wider world. So, are you ready to kind of see how the main Church tried to to navigate this this whole new landscape.

Absolutely. And and then how they thought about polygamy. Like did that change over time?

Yeah, it definitely did. It was a delicate balancing act for the church leaders.

How so?

Well, they had to distance themselves from polygamy to appease the government.

Right. They needed Utah to become a state.

Exactly. Which finally happened in 1896.

Okay.

But at the same time, they had to address all the theological questions that were lingering amongst their members.

Yeah. The ones who truly believed in plural marriage as a divine principle.

Right. For decades, They were taught that it was essential for exaltation.

And now suddenly it's not just discouraged, it's grounds for excommunication.

Yeah. That's a huge shift for people to process.

Absolutely.

So the church started to kind of reframe the narrative around polygamy.

Okay. How so?

Well, instead of presenting it as like a core doctrine, they started to focus more on the historical context. Presenting it as a practice that was specific to a certain time and place.

Less about eternal principles and more about understanding the circumstances,

right? They emphasized the difficult choices that the early saints faced, the persecution they endured, the sacrifices they made.

So, the focus shifted to their resilience and their faith in the face of adversity rather than the specifics of the practice itself.

Exactly.

It makes sense. But what about the doctrine of celestial marriage? Did that disappear completely?

That's where it gets really interesting. The doctrine of celestial marriage, which encompasses this idea, eternal marriage and eternal family units, it's still a core part of Latter-day Saint theology.

Okay.

However, the emphasis on plural marriage within that doctrine has diminished significantly.

So, it's less about polygamy being the only way to exaltation and more about this broader concept of eternal family ties.

Precisely. The church now emphasizes that celestial marriage is available to all worthy couples regardless of whether they practiced plural marriage in this life or not.

I see.

They teach that God's plan for eternal families, it's expansive. It encompasses a variety of different circumstances.

So, it's a way to kind of acknowledge the past without making it a prerequisite for future salvation.

Yeah, exactly. But that still leaves us with the question of those splinter groups, the ones who continue to practice polygamy.

Right. So, how does the church address their existence?

They are very very clear in distinguishing themselves from these groups.

Okay?

They emphasize that these groups, they're not affiliated with the LDS church and that their practices, which often involve things like underage, marriage, and coercion, are condemned.

So, drawing a clear line between the modern church and these splinter groups

who are seen as holding on to a practice that's no longer sanctioned,

right? They don't speak for the church and their practices are not condoned.

It's about protecting their reputation and making sure that their message of faith and family isn't overshadowed by this controversy.

Yeah, exactly. It's about defining what Latter-day Saint belief really represents in the 21st century,

trying to reclaim that narrative,

right? But this legacy of polygamy It's something they still have to contend with.

Of course, it continues to shape public perception.

It does, and it fuels a lot of misconceptions about the church.

So, how do they navigate that?

It's a constant effort. The church focuses on transparency, providing historical context about 19th century polygamy.

Okay.

And emphasizing their modern stance against the practice.

They're trying to show the world who they are today beyond those stereotypes.

Exactly. They want to be known for their values of faith, family, and service. Not just for a practice that's no longer part of their faith.

But it sounds like it's a really complex and ongoing process.

It is.

Makes you realize that history doesn't just stay in the past.

Yeah. It continues to shape the present in all sorts of ways.

You got it. And in the final part of our deep dive, we'll delve into some of the lingering questions and controversies surrounding polygamy, its impact on modern Latter-day Saint identity, and the ethical and social implications that still spark debate today.

We've covered a lot of ground, you know, the historical context, the theological shifts, the splinter groups, but now I'm curious about the ripple effects. How does all of this history shape the way that Latter-day Saints see themselves today?

Oh, that's a great question because even though the church officially ended polygamy, you know, over a century ago, the legacy of that practice, it continues to inform both internal dialogue and external perceptions.

So, let's start within the church. You mentioned earlier that the doctrine of celestial marriage remains, but with less emphasis on the plural marriage aspect.

Yeah.

So, how do modern Latter-day Saints grapple with that?

Well, there are definitely varying perspectives. Um, some members view it as evidence of God's evolving revelation.

Okay.

That he adapts to the needs of his people in different eras. Others focus on the eternal nature of families, believing that committed couples can achieve exaltation through temple ordinances, regardless of, you know, past or present marital configurations.

So, a range of views, but united by that core belief in and eternal families, however those might look.

Exactly. But it would be naive to say there aren't lingering questions.

Of course,

for some, this shift on polygamy raises complex issues about prophetic authority and the interpretation of scripture.

How so?

Well, if something was once considered a divine commandment, how can it later be deemed unnecessary or even forbidden?

Right. It seems like it requires a certain level of faith and trust in the process of revelation, even when it doesn't fully align with our current understanding.

Absolutely. And this internal wrestling with those complex theological questions, it's often overlooked in the broader conversation about polygamy.

Yeah. People outside of the faith tend to just focus on uh the more sensationalized aspects,

right? The stereotypes, the the comparisons to, you know, contemporary polygamous groups that really have nothing to do with the LDS church.

So that historical baggage really overshadows these nuanced conversations that are happening within the faith itself.

Exactly. And this leads to a real challenge for the church in terms of public perception.

How so?

Well, they're constantly trying to balance transparency about their past with the desire to present a modern and inclusive image that reflects their current values.

It's like walking a tight rope.

It is.

Yeah.

On one hand acknowledging the historical reality of polygamy, but on the other hand, making it clear that it doesn't define who they are today.

A constant negotiation.

Yeah. And it's further complicated by the fact that polygamy remains a sensitive topic for many people even within the church.

Of course,

there are of polygamous families who still grapple with the legacy of that practice, the complexities, the hardships, the triumphs.

It's a reminder that history isn't just about abstract events. It's about real people and the impact of their choices.

Exactly. And I think that's one of the most important things to keep in mind as we conclude this deep dive. Okay.

Polygamy in all its complexities has shaped the Latter-day Saint movement in profound ways.

For sure.

It's a part of their story, but it doesn't define their entire story.

So, where does this leave us? What's the final takeaway for our listeners who've been grappling with this really intricate topic?

I think it's about recognizing the nuances. Polygamy isn't a monolithic concept.

Okay.

It evolved over time. It was practiced in different ways and it impacted individuals and families in vastly different ways.

So, moving beyond those easy answers and really embracing the complexities.

Exactly. And that requires looking beyond the headlines, engaging with diverse perspectives, and being willing to challenge our own assumptions.

Well said.

We'll see you next time.

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